PLEASE NO SERMONS ABOUT YOUR PROPOSED BOYCOTT

[Bob North]

I got an email from Steve MIller that was God and Jesus in content asking me to boycott and to donate $9.11. I am not religious and don't give money to those that use religion to push an agenda and to raise funds. Is that not what the Religious Right does? Do not send me any Emails that are GOD and JESUS sermons ! ! ! Do you have non profit status or some other means of accountability for the funds your asking for.Why send money to your house and not directly to an established account in the name of your Boycott. Your plan has nothing to do with impeachment. I recommend that no one send any money to you or any one else without a detailed plan from you and details of your process of accounting for the funds and how the funds are applied to your planned mission.The fact that you have overlooked this does not say much about your Game Plan.

[Russ]

well this just gave me an idea about how to cut into the big oil co, MSM, and all the government sponspered co funds/profits. if you look at how the companies get their source of income for set up and operation it usaully starts with the sale of stock shares. now what if we set up a stock investment club where we pool together say like $20/month for the purchase of shares in the companies that are supporting/linked with them in any way. this way we have more control over the companies because we will becoming the owners. this would include the defense corps. we could purchase a certain amount of shares and than sell them back. soon the corps would go broke. the money would be send /taken to a brookerage firm and held in their account which would be opened under our decided name. we would be the ones who would profit while they lose.

[Bob North]

Heres an idea, if anyone wants to invest in anything that will change or affect big oils bottom line invest in alternative energy. You can drive less, take puplic transportation ,get a small car that is fuel efficient. If you don't need oil you don't need to be in the Middle East. I don't want to profit from oil or a defense company and I hope no one else in this group wants to either. With the amount of investment you are talking about to control just one big oil company it would take many thousands more then 700 plus people and more then $20 a month investment to even have a small portion of control. These companies are the richest most profitable companies in the world. Your only hope is to replace the source of profit, that being oil with an alternative energy source.

[Russ]

well yes we would have to start out small, but the company has what is called a reinvestment plan. suspose they pay you a monthly divident. you can either reinvest it and get more shares. of course we will start out small, but we still will be allowed to have a say in the business matters. also look at it this way, the more shares we gain, the more money they must payout, the less money they have for operations, the more money we have available to purchase bigger amounts of shares, and so on. it would not be just limited to the 700 members here. it would be an open membership.

[Bob North]

DON'T INVEST AT ALL IN ANY OIL COMPANY ! ! ! THEY MAKE MONEY FROM YOUR INVESTMENT ! ! ! INVEST GREEN AND SUSTAINABLE OR DON'T INVEST AT ALL ! ! ! UNDERMIND THEM, DON'T HELP SUPPORT THEM ! ! ! THINK GREEN AND CLEAN AND THAT DOES NOT APPLY TO FOSSIL FUELS. I WILL NEVER BE SOLD ON THE IDEA TO INVEST IN AN OIL COMPANY, SO THIS WILL BE MY LAST COMMENT ON YOUR IDEA OF INVESTING IN AN OIL COMPANY, IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME AT ALL TO FEED THE BEAST.

[Russ]

ok suit yourself, since you do not see it my way. most people will not be interested in your idea anyway. what is the one thing that will get the majority of the population attention today? money, it does not mean that we are supporting or feeding the beast. look at it this way, the oil company owes us, so this is one way we can get our money back. at the same time we will be cutting into their operational funds. the less money they have to keep the company running the better.

[Monique Frugier]

Totally agree with you! I even would go further (but somehow I feel you already do), everyone should pay close attention to all the stuff they use in their daily life and see how easy it is NOT to use anything that endanger the planet (if not only our ownselves). Simple things like foam cups (take how many hundred of yers to desintegrate?), or those stupid and noisy gas mowers that stink. Where I live almost everyone use them. I am 63 years old and I use the old fashioned hand mower ( yes, I have good muscles part because of this) and hand cutters to prune my trees etc...People look at me and stop to congratulate me and some have asked me where I bought my mower and where I go to have it sharpened. .Pollution is not only affecting the air and the earth but also affect our ears and more.. Have you noticed that more and more people have problem hearing? Have you noticed how many people are not aware of the stimuli they get from noise they are even not aware of? Have you noticed that eveywhere you go shopping, there is music/ television/that you do not listen to and/or watch? Constant noise, constant subleminal "information" "THEY" want your brain to absorb without your knowledge?
And then we hear about Attention Deficit Disorder...wonder where this come from? But Hey! we take pills to "cure" problems that could have been avoided at the first place. We have become addicted with poisons that we have created.

[Bob North]

Monique hits the nail on the head. Start at home and with yourself, do what you can, as little or as big as you can. Cut down on the things that use oil as a resource to make and use substitutes that use a natural non poluting resource.READ the ARTICLE at COMCAST NEWS called "DOLPHIN THOUGHT EXTINCT SPOTTED IN CHINA" to get an idea of how serious the problem of polution on our planet has become. We should be worried about the amount of environmental terrorism taking place right under our nose every day and in our own backyard.Bush and Cheney have contributed to the exploitation of our planet to the point of being criminal. In part by supporting the OIL COMPANIES misinfomation campaign on GLOBAL WARMING and the convening of the Secret Cheney Energy Policy Conference that shut out anygroup that they ( BIG BUSNESS AND BIG BROTHER) thought would interfer in any way with there plans to rape and pilage the Planets resources, which is another reason I want them IMPEACHED.LOOK JUST DO SOMETHING! AS AL GORE HAS SAID "HAVE THE WILL TO ACT". Again I say "INVEST GREEN OR DON'T INVEST AT ALL" This will UNDERMIND, and ERODE THE POWER THEY WIELD.

[Russ]

geez you don't get what i am driving at. you think people are gonna change over to the green sorry i don't see it happening. while i do see your point, is it possible to get the majority of the population to think green?? we need to set up a plan that the majority will go along with. it doesn't mean we will be supporting the beast. i have tried the green approach and most people ignore me. so let's change plans.

[Bob North]

I'm sticking with a Green Plan !I do get what your saying I just don't agree.

[Steve Miller]

Bob North doesn't know the difference between a pledge and a donation. He doesn't know that a serious boycott would bust the stock market. He doesn't know that a boycott would force the government to have a legitimate hearing to convict the traitors who perpetrated the 9-11 attack. He doesn't know that he could profit from the drop in the stock market caused by a boycott. He doesn't know that the nominal $9.11 pledge is a way to track the number of people committed to a boycott. He fails in reading comprehension. He has no clue about God's word. He wouldn't know the game plan if it were a picture.

The other guy is talking about an oil company. What's that got to do with a boycott or 9-11, or the stock market, or a pledge of $9.11?

Bob North's small car is really going to have an impact on oil. I wish I could be that smart. Thanks Bob North.

[Bob North]

Here is what Bob North knows. He knows that you are attempting to profit from the 911 tragedy. You are asking people to send money to you at your house without any accountability. That there is no chance in your lifetime to bust the stock market. He knows that he does not want to even if he could, profit from the misfortune of others. He knows that the $9.11 pledge is for suckers that fall for what to me sounds like a scam or just a stupid idea conceived to take advantage of others misfortune. What I comprehend from reading your bullshit is that your plan sucks, it is probably a scam to get people to send you money "TO YOUR HOUSE". As far as a CLUE TO GOD'S WORD, well take your version of GOD'S word and shove it as far up your ASS as you can get it. I bet your wishing you just had a clue. As for the small car it's a start and if you add the fact that I'm establishing an environmental non profit and buying and conserving hundreds of acres of rainforest and establishing several reforestation projects with my own money that I earned from a house I restored by myself. I've designed an artificial rainforest canopy, and several enhanced rainforest projects as well as marketing projects and so on and so on. How smart are you? I'm betting not smart enough to get people to send you $9.11 TO YOUR HOUSE. What are you doing to make our planet a better place to live? Again I'm betting not much.

[Russ]

well ok Bob, let me ask you about swithing over to solar/wind power. this is also a way to make a cut on the oil companies profits.